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متن پادکست : You are listening to Cyber podcast episode 4: [interview] What do you think of the monarchy? تا حالا فکر کردین اگه توی خانواده سلطنتی بدنیا اومده بودین از چه حق و حقوق و مزایایی برخوردار بودین؟ اصلا نظرتون در مورد حکومت پادشاهی و خانواده سلطنتی چیه؟ من ادیتم و پادکست امروزمون یه بحث داغ و جنجالی در همین مورده. اما قبل از صحبت در این مورد یادتون باشه که نسخه کامل این پادکست به همراه متن اون رو می تونید از طریق کست باکس و اسپاتیفای داشته باشین. What are your thoughts generally speaking now on the Royal family? They have a lot of secrets. I think the royal façade needs to be broken down. I think people are really interested in finding out about what their life is really like. Ah…she’s sweet. Look at her hat! Well, I think generally, sort of the devilish side of the society. Over privileged, over educated. What are sort of your general thoughts on the royal family as a whole? Ughh…not again. I think they’re doing a good job.I think they are the royal family. I’m very proud of them. I’m proud to be British. I think they do enough or a lot of good. They bring huge amount of tourists into the country. That’s splendid! …Which brings enough a lot of revenue into the country. Do you think we still need them? Why is she on every single channel? … I would say not. But I think a lot of people idolize them and see them as massive celebrities… They pay no taxes, they never get persecuted, they can drive without a license and travel without a passport. Where in our world can you see such a thing? They can exercise their own judgement. On top of all these, is the high cost of their glamorous lifestyle. So, the question is, in what ways are they superior to the rest of the population? What merits do they have that give them the rights to all of these? The answer is simple. Genealogy! Simply, if you are born in a royal family, you automatically inherit all these so-called rights. Isn’t that cool? Well, if you look into it more deeply it’s more controversial than cool and that’s what we are discussing with our friends today. So join us. علاوه بر زندگی باشکوه و مجللی که خاندان سلطنتی داره، یه سری قوانین هم هست که اعضای این خانواده نازپرورده ازشون معافند. مثلا حتی بدون پاسپورت میتونن به هرکجای دنیا که میخوان سفر کنن. هیچ مالیاتی پرداخت نمیکنن و یا هیچ پیگرد قانونی شامل حالشون نمیشه. حالا چرا؟ چون اصل و نسبشون اینطور میگه. اصل و نسب یا شجره نامه به انگلیسی میشه genealogy که از کلمه generation به معنی نسل میاد. اما، صد البته که موضوع به این سادگیام نیست و این سبک زندگی هم محدودیت های خاص خودشو داره. من ادیتم و امروز میخوایم با شبنم و علیرضا از زوایای مختلف به این موضوع بپردازیم. E: where’s the remote control? Every single one of them is going on about the jubilee. Isn’t that too much? A: just turn it off. S: Don’t change the channels, don’t change the channels. It’s just so fun. A: Come on. Just turn it off. E: Don’t you think it’s unfair that some people are born in a royal family? B: Well, if I am biased, then I should say, yes, it is unfair. But not for what you may have in mind. بذارید همینجا یه کلمه باحال بهتون بگم که شبنم استفاده کرد. کلمه biased که به معنی متعصبانه یا جانبدارانه ست. A: So, what do I have in mind, do you think? B: Well, being a king or a queen is not an easy job. A: it isn’t? S: it’s not an easy job. I mean, it’s not as glamorous as it looks. You see, I’m not talking about what you “can” do, there are so many things you cannot do as a monarch. So, sometimes doing the simplest things would remain a wish for a lifetime. A: huh…poor Queen! E: I don’t think they have any wishes that haven’t come true in their lives. B: Yeah, particularly that you don’t get to choose to be born a Royal. You know what I’m saying? C: Right, but you can choose to live a Royal life! Can’t you? E: Yeah, right. I was going to ask you about what you think about it, Alireza. Can you tell us? C: Well honestly, I do believe living a Royal life is unfair but unlike Shabnam, I see it from a different angle. قبل از اینکه علیرضا بیشتر توضیح بده، from a different angle یعنی از یه زاویه متفاوت یا از یه بعد دیگه . E: Uh huh…and what angle is it? A: I mean why should just one family have the most crucial rights to themselves while they haven’t really worked to earn them? I mean why should these people be ruling the state just because they were born in so and so Royal Family? A: remember I said geneology? B: Well, I agree that just one family and all these privileges may not seem fair but let’s not forget; living like a Royal means working like a Royal. A: Oh [chuckle], come on. Working like a Royal? What do they do apart from attending boring parties? B: The truth is, the Royal Family members have a lot to do and they are not just some iconic figures enjoying themselves lavishing money, although there have been monarchs through history who’ve neglected their duties. E: all of them do that. All of them… A: Well, maybe I don’t know about their duties. Please, do enlighten us. میخوایم ببینیم که آیا خانواده سلطنتی از حق و مزایای خاصی برخوردارن یا نه. مزایا به انگلیسی میشه privilege و فعلی که معمولا با این کلمه استفاده میشه grant یا lack هست. اکثر آدما بر این باورند که خانواده های سلطنتی فقط یه سری چهره یا شخصیت های نمادین یا iconic figures هستن که از خودشون قدرت چندانی ندارن...بیاین ببینیم واقعا اینطوره یا نه؟ A: Yeah, that’s what I was going to ask. Can you tell us? B: sure. They have a variety of duties from throwing and attending formal parties to replying mails and inaugurating new projects. E: since when parties have become a job? A: Ok, so you’re telling me that these parties are necessary? I mean entertaining tens of thousands of people every year, what good does that do for the people? I mean, can you even imagine the economic load it imposes? Where does all that money come from? E: you know I hear that last year, last year they hosted about 12000 people in those parties. A: on people’s money. B: The thing is, the attendees are usually the officials, ministers and governors who need to meet and socialize. So, what better place than the royal party? E: Oh… A: Oh, come on! کلمه attend در نقش فعل به معنی حضور داشتن یا شرکت کردنه . در کنارش کلمه attend to باز در نقش فعل می تونه به معنی پرداختن یا توجه کردن به موضوعی باشه. اما نکته جالب در مورد اسم های این فعله. Attendance به معنی شرکت کردن یا حضور و همینطور تعداد شرکت کنندگان در در یک جلسه یا جاییه . یکی دیگه از این اسمها که به شخص دلالت میکنه attendant هست و به معنی خدمتکاره. حتما کلمه flight attendant رو که به معنی مهماندار هست رو شنیدین. یه اسم دیگه هم هست به معنی شرکت کننده یا کسی که توی یه مراسمی شرکت میکنه و میشه attendee . در بریتیش اینگلیش از کلمه attender به همین معنی هم استفاده میشه اما در امریکن attender به معنی کسی هست که بطور مکرر در جلسه یا مراسمی شرکت میکنه. حواستون به تلفظ حرف a در این کلمه ها باش ه، هیچکدومشون استرس نمی گیرن. میگیم attendance, attendee, attend و یادتون باشه، وقتی ریشه پیشوند و پسوند و همخانواده های یک کلمه رو بلد باشین خیلی راحت تر می تونین دایره لغاتتون رو گسترش بدین. خب برگردیم به بحث مهمانی های سلطنتی.. . E: Now…suppose these parties are essential, what other duties does the monarch have? S: Actually, the queen brings about most of the UK’s alliance with other countries. Isn’t it great of what? A: you mean other colonies! E: If that’s true, then that’s Ok. A: You see, it is said that in the UK the king or queen has very limited power and it’s the parliament that runs the country but that’s not true. You see, the funny thing is that the monarch has the authority to elect the MPs. I mean, isn’t that ridiculous? A: It is…I guess that’s why it is believed the monarch is just a symbolic figure. A: Well, I’m not so sure about that. S: See, this is why I believe their life is unfair. Imagine you’re called the king or queen of a country but have no power over the parliament? A: Well, it’s not like they have no authority. They get to choose the members who get to decide in your stead, right? And you have the power to disapprove any decision made by the parliament. E: Yeah, they can even change the prime minister, I hear. A: See? E: Ya, ya, and concerning what you said…I’ve heard the monarch is expected to always approve any decision made by the parliament, but I don’t think that’s the case in the modern era. توی این قسمت چندتا کلمه داشتیم که معمولا در متون سیاسی بهشون بر می خورین. مثلا کلمه monarch که به معنی شاه یا سلطان هست و کلمه monarchy به معنی سلطنت یا رژیم پادشاهی هم همخانواده ش هست. به تلف ظ Ch در این کلمه دقت کنین. صدای ک میده. کلمه بعدی alliance به معنی اتحاد یا دوستی هست که معمولا در روابط سیاسی کشورها بکار میره و وقتی یه کشور با یه کشور دیگه متحد میشه به اصطلاح ally خوانده میشن. گفتیم ملکه یا شاه نمایندگان مجلس رو خودش انتخاب میکنه. نماینده مجلس به انگلیسی میشه member of parliament که کوتاه شده ش معمولا میشه MP . A: I don’t know. S: And one more thing, the monarch is the head of so many charities. I read somewhere that the Queen of England is in charge of over 600, 600 charities and attends to all their activities. A: Yeah, but I mean this is more of a show than a real act of charity, I mean, it’s just to remain popular among people. S: It’s not. Not at all. E: Well, I think the show is OK as long as they can really help those in need. S: But I don’t think these are merely shows, because they are established and official organizations and thousands of ordinary people are also involved. A: I mean it’s just a money laundering scheme. And in any case…compared to the wealth they accumulate, these charities are nothing! S: They have great importance. E: By the way, I hear Queen that Elizabeth has quite a bizarre daily routine. Do you know anything about it? C: Well, yeah…I read somewhere that her majesty wakes up at 7:30 and is served Earl Gray tea in her bed while listening to the radio on BBC4. S: I’m sure you’ve noticed how elegantly she dresses up. She has 3 personal assistants and wardrobe curators who help her with her outfit every day. And you know what? She has little say in picking her outfit. Oh, and besides her outfit, she’s had the same hair style for decades. [chuckles] A: That’s such a first world problem. E: Now that’s so boring. C: I also read somewhere that she enjoys her breakfast while her favorite music is played for her “live” by the Royal bagpipers. E: Now with such a routine… A: I mean who listens to bagpipe? E: Wow…with such a routine, I’d live to be at least 200. B: [chuckle] you bet… S: [chuckle] So, when does she work? And what does she do exactly? [sarcastically] قبل از اینکه ببینیم ملکه الیزابت دقیقا چکار میکنه چندتا کلمه خوب رو با هم مرور کنیم. گفتیم they accumulate wealth کلمه accumulate یعنی جمع کردن یا انباشتنی هست که به مرور زمان اتفاق میفته. مثلا می تونید بگید I’ve accumulated a lot of knowledge . یه مترادف خوب برای کلمه strange یا عجیب توی این قسمت داشتیم... می تونین برگردین و پیداش کنین؟ درسته کلمه bizarre . به استرس کلمه دقت کنین ] تکرار کلمه [ روی قسمت دومه. گفتیم ملکه الیزابت سه نفر به عنوان متصدی کمد لباسهاش داره که میشه wardrobe curator . Curator به معنی متصدی هست. و یه کلمه دیگه که حتما معنیش رو می دونید اما شاید ندونید که به معنی اختیار یا اظهار نظر هم می تونه باشه....کلمه say هست وقتی که به عنوان اسم استفاده میشه. مثلا میگیم she has no say یعنی هیچ اختیاری از خودش نداره. B: Well, there are a lot of correspondence she needs to attend to. There are also some visitors she receives every day. And she makes over 200 trips to other countries or states every year. Isn’t this work or what? A: No it’s not. E: So traveling first class is a job, right? S: It sure is! A: I think her routine is pretty much the same everyday…only the visitors change or the places change. Just imagine you do the same things almost everyday for “decades”. How doesn’t she get bored? C: So, maybe this is how you think life treats her and her family unfairly? [sarcastic] B: In any case, I don’t think they have an easy life. C: Oh come on, they do. People are having trouble surviving. What’s so hard about leading an extravagant and glamorous life? یکی از کارهای ملکه مکاتبه یا correspondence هست. correspondence میتونه به معنی خود نامه هم باشه. نوع زندگی پر ریخت و پاش رو به انگلیسی میشه extravagant میگن و مجلل هم میشه glamorous. A: Well, well, well…..seems we’re not going to reach any agreement soon. So, I’ll leave this to our listeners. Whose side do you take in this argument? What do “you” think about monarchy? Let us know in the comments. And, if you’ve come with us this far, it means you have been listening to the entire episode, for which we are really grateful and would be even more grateful if you could leave us your reviews on the podcast. This podcast was brought to you by, Safir Language Academy’s content development department. All the scripts can be found on Castbox. Until next week, stay tuned and stay safe…babye

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